Joy Division comparative gigography (date/venue)
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Key
HIC = 'History In Cuttings' listing + = comparative 'present'
NOL = NewOrderOnline listing - = comparative 'absent'
WIM = WorldInMotion listing
WR = Waterrat listing
AOL = http://members.aol.com/lwtua/concerts.htm
This page often has evidence in the form of clippings from flyers
and papers
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Note: I know there's a few other lists published in the numerous Joy Division
books that have been out, which I'll incorporate at some later time.
I think the History In Cuttings page adequately aggregates all the earlier ones.
WARSAW
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1977
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29 MAY 77 The Electric Circus - Manchester, England
NOL has 30 MAY 77, all others have 29 MAY 77
31 MAY 77 Rafters - Manchester, England
AOL indicates there was no performance because the equipment
broke down
01 JUN 77 The Squat - Manchester, England
NOL has 02 JUN 77, WIM doesn't give date
02 JUN 77 ?? - Newcastle, England
WR+ HIC+ NOL- WIM+ AOL+
03 JUN 77 The Squat - Manchester, England
AOL+ no others list this (maybe this refers to 03 JUL 77)
16 JUN 77 The Squat - Manchester, England
AOL+ no others list this
?? JUN 77 The Squat - Manchester, England
WR+ WIM+
Looks like JD played the Squat no less than three times in
June, hence the confusion.
30 JUN 77 Rafters - Manchester, England
03 JUL 77 The Squat - Manchester, England
AOL+ NOL+ WR/HIC don't give date, WIM gives "early July"
27 AUG 77 Eric's - Liverpool, England (matinee)
27 AUG 77 The Electric Circus - Manchester, England
01 SEP 77 Rock Garden - Middlesborough, England
14 NOL+ gives 01 AOL+ gives 14, see 14 SEP 79
WR/HIC/WIM don't give date. WR/WIM/NOL spells 'Middlesbrough'.
'Leaders Of Men' aired by Hooky on radio show.
02 OCT 77 The Electric Circus - Manchester, England
WIM gives '03 OCT 77' instead
07 OCT 77 Salford Technical College - Salford, England
08 OCT 77 Manchester Polytechnic - Manchester, England
HIC-
13 OCT 77 Rafters - Manchester, England
AOL+ no others list, but AOL has photo docs
19 OCT 77 Piper's Disco - Manchester, England
24 NOV 77 Rafters - Manchester, England
AOL+ no others list, but AOL has photo docs
21 DEC 77 Rafters - Manchester, England
NOL+ WR/HIC/WIM don't give date, AOL has "?? DEC 77"
and says this could be the 24 NOV 77 date
31 DEC 77 The Swinging Apple - Liverpool, England
JOY DIVISION
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1978
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25 JAN 78 Pip's - Manchester, England
14 MAR 78 Bowden Vale Youth Club, Altrincham
WIM+ (should be listed in 1979)
AOL has 'Bowdon' and also lists this
28 MAR 78 Rafters - Manchester, England
HIC-
14 APR 78 Rafters - Manchester, England
(Stiff Test/Chiswick Challenge)
20 MAY 78 The Mayflower - Manchester, England
09 JUN 78 The Factory I - Manchester, England
HIC lists 'Rafters - Manchester' instead
15 JUL 78 Eric's - Liverpool, England
?? JUN 78 Band On The Wall - Manchester, England
AOL+ WIM+ NOL- WR- HIC-
27 JUL 78 The Fan Club (Roots Club) - Leeds, England
29 AUG 78 Band On The Wall - Manchester, England
HIC-
04 SEP 78 Band On The Wall - Manchester, England
WR gives a setlist which should go in JUN/JUL 79
'Band On The Wall' listing instead
09 SEP 78 Eric's - Liverpool, England
10 SEP 78 Royal Standard - Bradford, England
02 OCT 78 Bolton Institute Of Technology - Bolton, England
12 OCT 78 Kelly's - Manchester, England
20 OCT 78 The Factory I - Manchester, England
24 OCT 78 The Fan Club (Branningan's) - Leeds, England
?? OCT 78 Band On The Wall, Manchester
WIM and AOL gives unspecified OCT 78 date, others don't list
04 NOV 78 Eric's - Liverpool, England
14 NOV 78 The Odeon - Canterbury, England
15 NOV 78 Brunel University - Uxbridge, England
17 NOV 78 Top Rank - Reading, England
NOL+ WR/HIC/WIM/AOL don't give date
19 NOV 78 Bristol, England
HIC-
20 NOV 78 Check Inn Club - Altrincham, England
26 NOV 78 New Electric Circus - Manchester, England
01 DEC 78 Salford College Of Technology - Manchester, England
Everybody except AOL lists venue as "The Factory"
AOL notes that this listing, which is derived from Touching From
A Distance, is contradicted by a poster that reads "SALTEC ENTS
presents GRAND XMAS BALL"
22 DEC 78 Revolution Club - York, England
27 DEC 78 The Hope And Anchor - Islington, London, England
1979
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10 FEB 79 Bolton, England
HIC-
16 FEB 79 Eric's - Liverpool, England
28 FEB 79 Playhouse - Nottingham, England
01 MAR 79 The Hope And Anchor - Islington, London, England
04 MAR 79 The Marquee - London, England
14 MAR 79 Bowdon Vale Youth Club - Altrincham, England
Spelled 'Bowdon' in WIM and AOL
17 MAR 79 University of Kent - Canterbury, England
WR+ NOL+ HIC- WIM- AOL+, but questions date
Likely that this really happened on 16 JUN 79 .
?? MAR 79 Odeon, Canterbury
HIC+ others don't list. likely this is the 16 JUN 79 date.
Probably synonymous with 17 MAR U. Kent date above.
30 MAR 79 Youth Centre - Walthamstow, England
03 MAY 79 Eric's - Liverpool, England
11 MAY 79 The Factory I - Manchester, England
17 MAY 79 Acklam Hall - London, England
HIC, WIM, and AOL have "Acklam Hall", which sounds more likely
23 MAY 79 Bowdon Vale Youth Club - Altrincham, England
Spelled 'Bowden' in WR, everybody else has 'Bowdon'.
07 JUN 79 Fan Club - Leeds, England
HIC-
13 JUN 79 The Factory/Russell Club, Manchester
HIC- NOL- WR+ WIM+
16 JUN 79 The Odeon - Canterbury, England
HIC has this in ?? MAR 79, AOL lists University of Kent
where they supported the Cure
17 JUN 79 Royalty Theatre - Holborn, London, England
HIC-
22 JUN 79 Good Mood - Halifax, England
HIC-
25 JUN 79 Free Trade Hall, Manchester
AOL+ (with proof)
28 JUN 79 The Factory I - Manchester, England
WR+ (but acknowledges the later date) HIC/NOL have 01 JUL 79
WIM-
30 JUN 79 Band On The Wall - Manchester, England
NOL+ WR/HIC don't give date, but list "MAY/JUN 79"
AOL gives JUN 79, no specific date.
01 JUL 79 The Factory I - Manchester, England
HIC+ NOL+ WR gives 28 JUN 79 (see above), WIM-
AOL says it could be either but lists 28 JUN 79 in the heading
03 JUL 79 Free Trade Hall - Manchester, England
05 JUL 79 Limit Club - Sheffield, England
11 JUL 79 Roots Club - Leeds, England
13 JUL 79 Russel Club (The Factory) - Manchester, England
27 JUL 79 Imperial Hotel - Blackpool, England
28 JUL 79 The Fun House (The Mayflower) - Manchester, England
02 AUG 79 Prince Of Wales Conference Centre, YMCA - London, England
08 AUG 79 Romulus - Birmingham, England
HIC-
11 AUG 79 Eric's - Liverpool, England (matinee under 18)
11 AUG 79 Eric's - Liverpool, England
13 AUG 79 Nashville Club - London, England
22 AUG 79 Youth Centre - Walthamstow, England
WR gives alternate date of '24 AUG 79', WIM just lists 24 AUG 79.
According to AOL, 24 AUG 79 came from Deborah Curtis' book
27 AUG 79 Leigh Open Air (Pop) Festival , Plank Lane, Leigh
31 AUG 79 The Electric Ballroom - London, England
08 SEP 79 Futurama One, Queen's Hall - Leeds, England
14 SEP 79 Rock Garden, Middlesborough
AOL+ no others, source personal affidavit, maybe person was
two years off
22 SEP 79 Nashville Club - London, England
28 SEP 79 The Factory I - Manchester, England
02 OCT 79 Mountford Hall, University Of Liverpool - England
03 OCT 79 Leeds University - Leeds, England
04 OCT 79 City Hall - Newcastle, England
05 OCT 79 The Apollo - Glasgow, Scotland
06 OCT 79 Odeon - Edinburgh, Scotland
07 OCT 79 Capitol - Aberdeen, Scotland
08 OCT 79 Caird Hall - Dundee, Scotland
16 OCT 79 Plan K - Brussels, Belgium
18 OCT 79 Bangor University - Bangor, England
HIC/NOL/WIM give 19 OCT 79, WR/AOL have 18 OCT 79
AOL offers visual proof/explanation
20 OCT 79 Loughborough University - Loughborough, England
21 OCT 79 Top Rank - Sheffield, England
22 OCT 79 Assembly Halls - Derby, England
23 OCT 79 King George's Hall - Blackburn, England
24 OCT 79 The Odeon - Birmingham, England
25 OCT 79 St. George's Hall - Bradford, England
26 OCT 79 The Electric Ballroom - London, England
27 OCT 79 Apollo Theatre - Manchester England
28 OCT 79 Apollo Theatre - Manchester England
29 OCT 79 De Montfort Hall - Leicester, England
WR/NOL has 'De Montford' HIC/WIM/AOL use 'De Montfort'.
30 OCT 79 The New Theatre - Oxford, England
01 NOV 79 Civic Hall - Guildford, England
02 NOV 79 Winter Gardens (Town Hall?) - Bournemouth, England
03 NOV 79 Sophia Gardens - Cardiff, England CANCELLED
Marko from JD Central found an advert with 'cancelled'
stamped over the listing
04 NOV 79 Colston Hall - Bristol, England
05 NOV 79 Pavilion - Hemel Hempstead, England
(soundcheck recorded, see 11 NOV 79 entry)
WIM has 'Helmet Hempstead'
07 NOV 79 Pavilion - West Runton, England
09 NOV 79 The Rainbow Theatre - London, England
10 NOV 79 The Rainbow Theatre - London, England
11 NOV 79 Pavilion - Hemel Hempstead, England
WR erroneously gives this date for soundcheck, should be 05 NOV 79
07 DEC 79 Stockport Technical College
WR+ HIC- NOL- WIM- AOL- (likely spurious)
08 DEC 79 Eric's - Liverpool, England
HIC and AOL have afternoon/evening listings like for 08 NOV 79
18 DEC 79 Les Bains-Douches Club - Paris, France
31 DEC 79 Woolworth's, Oldham Street - Manchester, England (Factory Party)
HIC-
1980
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01 JAN 80 Piccadilly Gardens - Manchester, England
WIM- AOL- all others list
11 JAN 80 Paradiso - Amsterdam, Holland
12 JAN 80 Aaard Van Troje (The Trojan Horse) - The Hague, Holland
13 JAN 80 Doomroosje - Nijmegen, Holland
14 JAN 80 King Kong - Antwerp, Belgium
15 JAN 80 The Basement - Cologne, West Germany
16 JAN 80 Club Lantaren - Rotterdam, Holland
17 JAN 80 Plan K - Brussels, Belgium
18 JAN 80 Effenaar - Eindhoven, Holland
19 JAN 80 Vera - Groningen, Netherlands
21 JAN 80 Kantkino - Berlin, West Germany
07 FEB 80 The Factory II (New Osborne Club) - Manchester, England
AOL notes spelling should be 'New Osborne' (no u).
All the others that list it include the u.
08 FEB 80 University of London Union - London, England
20 FEB 80 Town Hall - High Wycombe, England
(soundcheck recorded)
28 FEB 80 The Warehouse - Preston, England
29 FEB 80 The Lyceum - London, England
(soundcheck recorded)
05 MAR 80 Trinity Hall - Bristol, England
02 APR 80 The Moonlight Club - London, England
03 APR 80 The Moonlight Club - London, England
04 APR 80 The Rainbow - London, England
04 APR 80 The Moonlight Club - London, England
05 APR 80 The Winter Gardens - Malvern, England
08 APR 80 Derby Hall - Bury, England
11 APR 80 The Factory I (Russel Club) - Manchester, England
19 APR 80 Ajanta Theatre - Derby, England 45
AOL notes that locals referred to venue as 'Ajanta Cinema'
25 APR 80 Scala Cinema - London, England CANCELLED
(noted for completion)
26 APR 80 Rock Garden - Middlesborough, England CANCELLED
(noted for completion)
02 MAY 80 High Hall, Birmingham University - Birmingham, England
(soundcheck recorded)
?? Maxwell's - Hoboken, New Jersey CANCELLED
(noted for completion, from AOL)
New Order played there 20 SEP 80
?? MAY 80 Hurrah - New York CANCELLED
New Order played there 26 SEP 80
(noted for completion, from AOL)
27 MAY 80 Tuts - W.Belmont, Chicago CANCELLED
(noted for completion, from AOL)
?? Maxwell's - Hoboken, New Jersey CANCELLED
(noted for completion, from AOL)
?? Tier 3 - New York (27 Sept) CANCELLED
New Order played there 27 SEP 80
(noted for completion, from AOL)
?? The Underground - Boston CANCELLED
New Order played there 30 SEP 80
(noted for completion, from AOL)
?? Bogart's - Cincinnati CANCELLED
(noted for completion, from AOL)
06 JUN 80 The Starwood, Sunset Blvd - Los Angeles CANCELLED
(noted for completion, from AOL)