Joy Division comparative gigography (date/venue)

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Key

HIC = 'History In Cuttings' listing		+ = comparative 'present'
NOL = NewOrderOnline listing			- = comparative 'absent'
WIM = WorldInMotion listing			
WR  = Waterrat listing
AOL = http://members.aol.com/lwtua/concerts.htm
      This page often has evidence in the form of clippings from flyers
        and papers
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Note:  I know there's a few other lists published in the numerous Joy Division
books that have been out, which I'll incorporate at some later time.
I think the History In Cuttings page adequately aggregates all the earlier ones.

WARSAW
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1977
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29 MAY 77 	The Electric Circus - Manchester, England
	  	NOL has 30 MAY 77, all others have 29 MAY 77

31 MAY 77 	Rafters - Manchester, England
	  	AOL indicates there was no performance because the equipment
	    	    broke down

01 JUN 77 	The Squat - Manchester, England
	  	NOL has 02 JUN 77, WIM doesn't give date

02 JUN 77 	?? - Newcastle, England
	  	WR+ HIC+ NOL- WIM+ AOL+

03 JUN 77 	The Squat - Manchester, England
	  	AOL+ no others list this (maybe this refers to 03 JUL 77)

16 JUN 77 	The Squat - Manchester, England 
	  	AOL+ no others list this

?? JUN 77 	The Squat - Manchester, England
   	  	WR+ WIM+
          	Looks like JD played the Squat no less than three times in
                  June, hence the confusion.	

30 JUN 77 	Rafters - Manchester, England

03 JUL 77 	The Squat - Manchester, England
	  	AOL+ NOL+  WR/HIC don't give date, WIM gives "early July"
	  
27 AUG 77 	Eric's - Liverpool, England (matinee)

27 AUG 77 	The Electric Circus - Manchester, England 

01 SEP 77 	Rock Garden - Middlesborough, England
14	  	NOL+  gives 01  AOL+ gives 14, see 14 SEP 79
          	WR/HIC/WIM don't give date.  WR/WIM/NOL spells 'Middlesbrough'.
 	        'Leaders Of Men' aired by Hooky on radio show.

02 OCT 77 	The Electric Circus - Manchester, England
	  	WIM gives '03 OCT 77' instead

07 OCT 77 	Salford Technical College - Salford, England

08 OCT 77 	Manchester Polytechnic - Manchester, England
	  	HIC-

13 OCT 77 	Rafters - Manchester, England
	  	AOL+  no others list, but AOL has photo docs

19 OCT 77 	Piper's Disco - Manchester, England

24 NOV 77 	Rafters - Manchester, England
	  	AOL+  no others list, but AOL has photo docs

21 DEC 77 	Rafters - Manchester, England
	  	NOL+  WR/HIC/WIM don't give date, AOL has "?? DEC 77"
	    	  and says this could be the 24 NOV 77 date

31 DEC 77 	The Swinging Apple - Liverpool, England


JOY DIVISION
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1978
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25 JAN 78 	Pip's - Manchester, England

14 MAR 78 	Bowden Vale Youth Club, Altrincham
	  	WIM+ (should be listed in 1979)
	  	AOL has 'Bowdon' and also lists this

28 MAR 78 	Rafters - Manchester, England
	  	HIC-

14 APR 78 	Rafters - Manchester, England
	  	(Stiff Test/Chiswick Challenge)

20 MAY 78 	The Mayflower - Manchester, England

09 JUN 78 	The Factory I - Manchester, England
	  	HIC lists 'Rafters - Manchester' instead

15 JUL 78 	Eric's - Liverpool, England

?? JUN 78 	Band On The Wall - Manchester, England
	  	AOL+ WIM+ NOL- WR- HIC-

27 JUL 78 	The Fan Club (Roots Club) - Leeds, England

29 AUG 78 	Band On The Wall - Manchester, England
	  	HIC- 

04 SEP 78 	Band On The Wall - Manchester, England 
	  	WR gives a setlist which should go in JUN/JUL 79 
            	  'Band On The Wall' listing instead

09 SEP 78 	Eric's - Liverpool, England

10 SEP 78 	Royal Standard - Bradford, England

02 OCT 78 	Bolton Institute Of Technology - Bolton, England

12 OCT 78 	Kelly's - Manchester, England

20 OCT 78 	The Factory I - Manchester, England

24 OCT 78 	The Fan Club (Branningan's) - Leeds, England

?? OCT 78 	Band On The Wall, Manchester
	   	WIM and AOL gives unspecified OCT 78 date, others don't list

04 NOV 78 	Eric's - Liverpool, England

14 NOV 78 	The Odeon - Canterbury, England

15 NOV 78 	Brunel University - Uxbridge, England

17 NOV 78 	Top Rank - Reading, England
	  	NOL+  WR/HIC/WIM/AOL don't give date

19 NOV 78 	Bristol, England
	  	HIC-

20 NOV 78 	Check Inn Club - Altrincham, England

26 NOV 78 	New Electric Circus - Manchester, England

01 DEC 78 	Salford College Of Technology - Manchester, England
	        Everybody except AOL lists venue as "The Factory"
                AOL notes that this listing, which is derived from Touching From 
                  A Distance, is contradicted by a poster that reads "SALTEC ENTS 
                  presents GRAND XMAS BALL"

22 DEC 78 	Revolution Club - York, England

27 DEC 78 	The Hope And Anchor - Islington, London, England


1979
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10 FEB 79 	Bolton, England
	  	HIC-

16 FEB 79 	Eric's - Liverpool, England

28 FEB 79 	Playhouse - Nottingham, England

01 MAR 79 	The Hope And Anchor - Islington, London, England

04 MAR 79 	The Marquee - London, England

14 MAR 79 	Bowdon Vale Youth Club - Altrincham, England 
	  	  Spelled 'Bowdon' in WIM and AOL

17 MAR 79 	University of Kent - Canterbury, England
	        WR+ NOL+ HIC- WIM- AOL+, but questions date
	 	Likely that this really happened on 16 JUN 79 		.

?? MAR 79 	Odeon, Canterbury 
	  	HIC+  others don't list.  likely this is the 16 JUN 79 date.
		Probably synonymous with 17 MAR U.  Kent date above.
		
30 MAR 79 	Youth Centre - Walthamstow, England

03 MAY 79 	Eric's - Liverpool, England

11 MAY 79 	The Factory I - Manchester, England

17 MAY 79 	Acklam Hall - London, England
	  	HIC, WIM, and AOL have "Acklam Hall", which sounds more likely

23 MAY 79 	Bowdon Vale Youth Club - Altrincham, England
	  	  Spelled 'Bowden' in WR, everybody else has 'Bowdon'.

07 JUN 79 	Fan Club - Leeds, England
	  	HIC-

13 JUN 79 	The Factory/Russell Club, Manchester
	  	HIC- NOL- WR+ WIM+

16 JUN 79 	The Odeon - Canterbury, England
	  	HIC has this in ?? MAR 79, AOL lists University of Kent
	          where they supported the Cure

17 JUN 79 	Royalty Theatre - Holborn, London, England
	  	HIC-

22 JUN 79 	Good Mood - Halifax, England
	  	HIC-

25 JUN 79 	Free Trade Hall, Manchester
	  	AOL+ (with proof)

28 JUN 79 	The Factory I - Manchester, England  
	  	WR+ (but acknowledges the later date)  HIC/NOL have 01 JUL 79
	    	WIM-

30 JUN 79 	Band On The Wall - Manchester, England
	  	NOL+  WR/HIC don't give date, but list "MAY/JUN 79"
	    	AOL gives JUN 79, no specific date.

01 JUL 79 	The Factory I - Manchester, England
	  	HIC+ NOL+  WR gives 28 JUN 79 (see above), WIM-
	    	AOL says it could be either but lists 28 JUN 79 in the heading

03 JUL 79 	Free Trade Hall - Manchester, England

05 JUL 79 	Limit Club - Sheffield, England

11 JUL 79 	Roots Club - Leeds, England 

13 JUL 79 	Russel Club (The Factory) - Manchester, England 

27 JUL 79 	Imperial Hotel - Blackpool, England 

28 JUL 79 	The Fun House (The Mayflower) - Manchester, England

02 AUG 79 	Prince Of Wales Conference Centre, YMCA - London, England

08 AUG 79 	Romulus - Birmingham, England 
	  	HIC-

11 AUG 79 	Eric's - Liverpool, England (matinee under 18)

11 AUG 79 	Eric's - Liverpool, England 

13 AUG 79 	Nashville Club - London, England

22 AUG 79 	Youth Centre - Walthamstow, England
	  	WR gives alternate date of '24 AUG 79', WIM just lists 24 AUG 79.
	   	  According to AOL, 24 AUG 79 came from Deborah Curtis' book

27 AUG 79 	 Leigh Open Air (Pop) Festival , Plank Lane, Leigh

31 AUG 79 	 The Electric Ballroom - London, England 

08 SEP 79 	 Futurama One, Queen's Hall - Leeds, England 

14 SEP 79 	 Rock Garden, Middlesborough
	  	 AOL+ no others, source personal affidavit, maybe person was
	    	   two years off

22 SEP 79 	Nashville Club - London, England 

28 SEP 79 	The Factory I - Manchester, England

02 OCT 79 	Mountford Hall, University Of Liverpool - England 

03 OCT 79 	Leeds University - Leeds, England

04 OCT 79 	City Hall - Newcastle, England 

05 OCT 79 	The Apollo - Glasgow, Scotland

06 OCT 79 	Odeon - Edinburgh, Scotland 

07 OCT 79 	Capitol - Aberdeen, Scotland

08 OCT 79 	Caird Hall - Dundee, Scotland

16 OCT 79 	Plan K - Brussels, Belgium

18 OCT 79 	Bangor University - Bangor, England
	  	HIC/NOL/WIM give 19 OCT 79, WR/AOL have 18 OCT 79 
	    	AOL offers visual proof/explanation

20 OCT 79 	Loughborough University - Loughborough, England

21 OCT 79 	Top Rank - Sheffield, England

22 OCT 79 	Assembly Halls - Derby, England

23 OCT 79	King George's Hall - Blackburn, England

24 OCT 79 	The Odeon - Birmingham, England

25 OCT 79 	St. George's Hall - Bradford, England

26 OCT 79 	The Electric Ballroom - London, England

27 OCT 79 	Apollo Theatre - Manchester England

28 OCT 79 	Apollo Theatre - Manchester England

29 OCT 79 	De Montfort Hall - Leicester, England
	  	WR/NOL has 'De Montford' HIC/WIM/AOL use 'De Montfort'.

30 OCT 79 	The New Theatre - Oxford, England

01 NOV 79 	Civic Hall - Guildford, England

02 NOV 79 	Winter Gardens (Town Hall?) - Bournemouth, England 

03 NOV 79 	Sophia Gardens - Cardiff, England  CANCELLED
	        Marko from JD Central found an advert with 'cancelled'
		  stamped over the listing

04 NOV 79 	Colston Hall - Bristol, England

05 NOV 79 	Pavilion - Hemel Hempstead, England 
          	(soundcheck recorded, see 11 NOV 79 entry)
	  	WIM has 'Helmet Hempstead'
 
07 NOV 79 	Pavilion - West Runton, England

09 NOV 79 	The Rainbow Theatre - London, England

10 NOV 79 	The Rainbow Theatre - London, England

11 NOV 79 	Pavilion - Hemel Hempstead, England
	  	WR erroneously gives this date for soundcheck, should be 05 NOV 79

07 DEC 79 	Stockport Technical College 
	  	WR+  HIC-  NOL-  WIM-  AOL- (likely spurious)

08 DEC 79 	Eric's - Liverpool, England
	  	HIC and AOL have afternoon/evening listings like for 08 NOV 79

18 DEC 79 	Les Bains-Douches Club - Paris, France 

31 DEC 79 	Woolworth's, Oldham Street - Manchester, England (Factory Party)
	  	HIC- 

1980
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01 JAN 80 	Piccadilly Gardens - Manchester, England 
	  	WIM- AOL-  all others list

11 JAN 80 	Paradiso - Amsterdam, Holland 

12 JAN 80 	Aaard Van Troje (The Trojan Horse) - The Hague, Holland

13 JAN 80 	Doomroosje - Nijmegen, Holland

14 JAN 80 	King Kong - Antwerp, Belgium

15 JAN 80 	The Basement - Cologne, West Germany 

16 JAN 80 	Club Lantaren - Rotterdam, Holland

17 JAN 80 	Plan K - Brussels, Belgium 

18 JAN 80 	Effenaar - Eindhoven, Holland

19 JAN 80 	Vera - Groningen, Netherlands

21 JAN 80 	Kantkino - Berlin, West Germany

07 FEB 80 	The Factory II (New Osborne Club) - Manchester, England
	  	AOL notes spelling should be 'New Osborne' (no u).
		All the others that list it include the u.

08 FEB 80 	University of London Union - London, England 

20 FEB 80 	Town Hall - High Wycombe, England 
	  	(soundcheck recorded)

28 FEB 80 	The Warehouse - Preston, England 

29 FEB 80 	The Lyceum - London, England 
	  	(soundcheck recorded)

05 MAR 80 	Trinity Hall - Bristol, England

02 APR 80 	The Moonlight Club - London, England 

03 APR 80 	The Moonlight Club - London, England

04 APR 80 	The Rainbow - London, England 

04 APR 80 	The Moonlight Club - London, England 

05 APR 80 	The Winter Gardens - Malvern, England 

08 APR 80 	Derby Hall - Bury, England 

11 APR 80 	The Factory I (Russel Club) - Manchester, England

19 APR 80 	Ajanta Theatre - Derby, England 45
	  	AOL notes that locals referred to venue as 'Ajanta Cinema'

25 APR 80 	Scala Cinema - London, England CANCELLED
	  	(noted for completion)

26 APR 80 	Rock Garden - Middlesborough, England CANCELLED
	  	(noted for completion)

02 MAY 80 	High Hall, Birmingham University - Birmingham, England 
	  	(soundcheck recorded)

??              Maxwell's - Hoboken, New Jersey	CANCELLED
                (noted for completion, from AOL)
		New Order played there 20 SEP 80

?? MAY 80  	Hurrah - New York 		CANCELLED
		New Order played there 26 SEP 80
		(noted for completion, from AOL)

27 MAY 80	Tuts - W.Belmont, Chicago 	CANCELLED
	        (noted for completion, from AOL)

?? 		Maxwell's - Hoboken, New Jersey	CANCELLED
		(noted for completion, from AOL)

?? 		Tier 3 - New York (27 Sept)	CANCELLED
		New Order played there 27 SEP 80
		(noted for completion, from AOL)

?? 		The Underground - Boston 	CANCELLED
		New Order played there 30 SEP 80
		(noted for completion, from AOL)

??		Bogart's - Cincinnati		CANCELLED
		(noted for completion, from AOL)

06 JUN 80	The Starwood, Sunset Blvd - Los Angeles	CANCELLED
		(noted for completion, from AOL)